Welcome to!A subreddit for all of those who love the Total War series. Tiers are bad at describing MP balance: balance is heavily dependant on match ups and pretty much every faction can beat all the others. That said, if you really want tier lists, I can give you the ones written in the (unfortunately deleted) GobboKing's guide.

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As I said I cannot consult the guide anymore, so something could be wrong. Moreover the guide wasn't updated after the last patch, meaning that factions should be more balanced to each other now and there are no Tomb Kings (they should arguably be middle/high tier though).High tier: Lizardmen, Dark Elves, Beastmen, SkavenMiddle tier: High Elves, Wood Elves, Dwarfs, Greenskins, Vampire CountsLow tier: Empire, Warriors of Chaos, BretonniaIIRC Turin had a slightly different opinion: he used to put High Elves and Skaven in a middle/high tier, while Greenskins, Empire and Warriors of Chaos in a low tier. Bretonnia haggard tier:-D. Again, don't quote me about that.

Well I think tier lists are a bad way to think about the game because this game is so matchup-specific and build-specific in that a faction can be great in one matchup but crappy in another. And in that good matchup, you can sometimes get screwed by bringing the wrong build.However, if I was to make a tier list, it wouldn't be that one. High elves and vampires are definitely not tier 1 due to an inability to deal with large monsters as efficiently as other factions.To the OP: if you are attempting to learn the tier list so that you can play the best factions, don't. People spend lots of time learning how to beat the meta strategies such that even though those strategies are good, that is often outweighed by people making builds to counter those strategies. My advice to you is to pick your favorite faction and learn the roster and how to use it in certain matchups. You will lose, but you will also learn. Because this game is so matchup-specificWell, if you just count the numbers of good, ok-ish and bad matchups you already end up with a decent tier list.Example:DwarfsGood match-ups: Bretonnia, Empire, Dark elves, WoodelvesBalanced match-ups: Greenskins, Tomb-kings, Vamps, SkavenBad Match-ups: High elves, Chaos, Beastmen, Lizards, (Norsca used to be horrible)Just counting those up, should place dwarfs somewhere in the middle of the pack. Real anatomy software.

I admit though that some of those match-ups are debatable. A lot of people would not count DE under good match-ups but somehow it is one that i almost never loose.

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